The Cost of Midlife: It's More Than Just Hormones. EPISODE 65

In this episode, we explore the financial challenges of midlife, including unexpected expenses, rising costs, and planning for a secure future. Our hosts share personal stories and insights to help listeners navigate this complex stage of life.

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SPEAKER_00 0:13

Hello and welcome to Not Your Mother's Midlife Crisis. I'm Chris, and all the way over there is my co-host Chris.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

I know we're coming to you from multiple states. We are. I am in. And I'm still in New Jersey.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

It is weird not being together. Yes. But you know what? We do it for the people. We do it. We do all our work, our mid-life girls. Yes. Everybody going through primenopause and menopause. We are here for you no matter what it takes.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

And selfishly, it is so nice to see you and to not miss this because I didn't see you all weekend because you were gone. And now I didn't get to, I haven't seen you. Normally I would see you at the gym. So I haven't had a chance to see you. So I am glad that we have this opportunity. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Yes, me too. Very much so. Now I didn't see you because I was at a spectacular wedding uh at the Botanical Gardens right outside Boston, celebrating Leah and Bailey. Um Suzanne and Bill. Congratulations to them and Rob and Bailey Sr. So it was a really amazing weekend and menu. But you also had a great weekend.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

I did. My baby girl was here. My baby girl and her boyfriend Will, who is he's just a doll. Um, and it was so much fun. We did, we went to I took her to Ann Judge, and she had a facial. Um, we went out to dinner, um, we played games, we were at the beach. So it was very, very nice. And it was just good. I mean, I of course I saw her in Alaska, but just to be able to have this like time with her, it was just so nice. Um but they left early because they had to drive back to school. Um, and it was a long, it was gonna be a long drive, 12-hour drive. That unfortunately her car broke down on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

My gosh.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

So they were probably like almost five hours into their drive, and the car break breaks down because they were supposed to be moving into their apartments, everything like that. So it it all worked out. It was definitely a a delay. Um, it was this crazy long story. She wound up, thank goodness, a dear friend. They stayed, they drove all the way to Indianapolis, not as far as West Lafayette, and stayed at his family's house, but they didn't get there until 12:30 in the morning. And then there were all those storms in the Midwest, and Indiana had all that flooding, and she was drying. So, yeah, it was one of these, it was one of these crazy things like, you know, little kids, little problems, big kids, big problems.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

That is so, so true.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

So it was one of those. You know, little kids are not expensive problems, big kids they're expensive problems.

unknown 3:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Good thing you brought up that expense thing because that's what I wanted to talk to you about today. I wanted to talk about the price of midlife, the financial price. We know about the physical and we know about the emotional, but the financial price of midlife is insane.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Um, it's a great topic and very relevant to what's going on because just you know, as we talked about, just visiting your grown kids, college and uh adult expenses, unexpected expenses. Um you name it. Plus, then we have our own expenses that have kind of increased with as life goes on, and just the time we're living in, everything is everything's expensive. You name it.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

There's there's nothing not there's nothing not expensive right now. Even bananas are expensive. Bananas and rice are now expensive. So that bananas and rice have become expensive, then the whole world is is off of shit. Like there's definitely it is so I got uh a financial and a reality punch in the face yesterday. As you know, I came to Florida. Um Riley just bought a house, I was coming to see it. Aaron's moving down here. We had we were had reports that there was some minor damage or some damage to our condominium unit here in Florida, and that I wanted to come clean it up before Aaron and Zach got here. Well, I walked into no walls. There is no wall between the bedroom and the living room, and there's only a half a wall. Well, I guess you'd say they took off the sheetrock on our side of the unit next to us, and they're telling me that they want to take down the sheetrock to the other side, to their unit. So that way our units could just be one big happy unit with a total fucking stranger.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

Yeah, not gonna work. Not gonna work.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

I'm like, this actually is not gonna happen. I I don't care. This isn't this isn't gonna happen. That I can't lie in my bed and look across into her unit. This isn't gonna happen. We don't live in that scene of the world.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

And again, that's an unexpected expense that we were not accounting for, even just to fly down there, everything.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

It's yeah, yeah, yes, and um, you know, food and yes, just just everything that goes with it. Will we be able to get most of it under insurance or some of it's under the HOA? Yes and yes, but still there were things that were damaged that that no one else is gonna replace. Correct. And the you know, the floors were brand new. The floors, I did the best job I could to get like all the watermarks off of it. It's it's ruined, you know. It's yeah, it's in the bedroom, I'm just gonna let it go. But it if I wanted to replace it, it would have to be you know, replace the ceramic dial. So the price of midlife is definitely um getting to me, yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

And and I told Lucy when all this was happening with her car, I was like, listen, adulting can really suck because stuff happens that you need to deal with, and expenses that you weren't counting on come up when you least expect it, which is like sure, as she said, I charge the tow to your credit card. And I had to order, I had to order a bed and that you know, um, make a trip to Alaska to visit her, like you name it.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Yeah, that was a big one, yeah. And and we're still sit we're still sandwiched in between, like our kids are in college, Riley, you know, buying a house, you know, Aaron's getting married, like the weddings, the grandchildren, all that, and then the price of uh living a senior life like your parents or my mother-in-law is also on the rise. Like it is expensive, and then like is that eventually, you know, you're gonna feel or at least see both sides of that where it's coming on one end and then got it on the other. And so another example of how we're like this sandwich generation. Um I gathered some 10-year facts. So we have to put my glasses on for these.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

So from And it's good.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

I have my glasses on because I am not, I'm not really podcast video ready.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

But we're we're just winging it today, guys. You either you know love us or hate us, but we're just doing our thing. We're just we're just we're trying to please everybody. So these are some 10-year facts that I gathered. Um, college in the past 10 years, public college has gone up 27%, private college has gone up 44%.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

It's insane.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

10 years, 10 years, not 50 years, not 100 years, 10 years. Okay. Weddings have gone up 20 to 25 percent in the past 10 years. Now, this is the kicker. Social security's purchasing power has gone down 13%. So we got these monumental increases, and then you got social security having less purchasing power and financial power. How does how are we supposed to manage? How does that equate to you know living a prosperous life or just being able to manage? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

And I can tell you too, like, because the economy sucks. Um, and even for your your the company that you work for, they'll give you that measly 2%, 2.5% cost of living increase, like performance, you know. Um, that doesn't even put a dent into the into the prices. And we're talking like the unexpected things, but even those numbers aren't accounting for like groceries, gas, utilities, everything just seems to have gone up exponentially. And listen, I am I feel and I am grateful every day, and I feel very blessed to have a job, um, to have like financial independence, and that I can, you know, I can the ability to take care of myself. But you were spot on that there are just things that are increasing, and you really don't, you know, you don't think about it until you're in it.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Right. It's it's it's not adding up. So like even if you take that 2% over 10 years, that's a 20% should be a 20% increase, let's just say. But the there was nothing in the cost of how much things have gone up, they've gone up more than 20%. Yeah. So how is it that your pay over 10 years, you know, could have gone up 20%, but which would be nice, honestly. I don't think that's not happening. I always say, is that is that reality? Because if college has gone up, you're you know, working and you're saving for your kids' college, and you're made an extra 20% over 10 years, but the college has gone up to 25%, or I'm sorry, the college went up to 27 to 44%, you still can't afford it. Like you still, you're still you're still leaving with debt. Or and then the weddings. It's just the financial crunch is really insane. Okay, now let's think about we're in our midlife and we're doing everything we can to be have live a healthier life. So you have the cost of our supplements, our skincare, of course, our hair care, um, gym memberships, oh, HRT, all these things we're trying to do to stay healthy, and they are they're you know, that midlife financial or financial crunch is insane. I think I just made a new word. Crunch, crunchantial. I don't know. It's like the crunch of financial together. I'm gonna work on it. We're gonna work on that because that's what we're feeling. Yeah, we can't even speak. So you're the accountant, okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Well, so but I have to say too, like, we were talking about this, like this is our our time, like with the even when the nest is empty and all the emotional, you know, things that go with it, but it's also our time to try new experiences, to travel more, which are definitely added expenses. And I'm realizing it's in a as we were preparing for the episode, I was like, I guess I added golf lessons, golf clubs, I'm traveling to go visit Seamus, I traveled to Alaska, I'm gonna be going out to Purdue to visit Lucy, I'm going to Colorado to visit my nephew, I'm going to Florida to visit my parents. And it's like ch-ching, ch-ching, ch ch ching, ch-ching. Now, Garnet, I should, I'm not complaining about that. I feel very, as I said, very blessed that I'm doing all this, but still, it just adds up the it, like you said, the cost of midlife. Because you want to have those experiences and take advantage of being healthy and being able to do it.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

And what's it gonna be like when we're we're not working and we are on like a fixed income and we just have those savings to live on? How much more it used to be if you had a million dollars in your bank, and now it's like if you had two two million dollars in your bank. What is it now? Is it three or four million in the bank in order to like survive? You know, because you're living longer too, and you want to still, I still want to stay on HRT as long as I can.

unknown 12:18

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

I mean, maybe I'll be covered under insurance by then, yeah, but probably not for our age.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

By the time we get there, we'll be the ones by the time we're 80, yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Yeah, we'll be the ones who fought for it, but they'll be like, sorry, you're too old. You could have had it when you were for free, when you were, you know, 60, but not 80.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

But so I do have a monthly budget and I really try and document where my money's going and how to juggle everything. But unfortunately, that kind of goes out the window when you're hit with unexpected expenses, like you see your credit card bill and the kids have charged like the tow truck, or there's like medical bills that come up, or other expenses that you really weren't accounting for. And then, so yeah, you really have to make sure you have that emergency fund um to account for these unexpected things, but it is tough, and I can't imagine having to like feed kids now, like and pack lunches and do all that other stuff, yes, because it's just yeah, it's just so expensive.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

So it's um it's a lot, and I you know, I I think I keep we keep a mental budget, like, oh, we're spending the same amount, but unless you really put it down on paper, I think, and actually adjust what you're paying for electric right now. Electric is out of control right now, at least in where we live. You don't realize that maybe maybe your budget isn't as good as you it was before, because we've probably got the same budget for years. Like our expenses, what we're spending on hasn't really changed, you know, other than weddings and stuff like that. Um and kids are out of college, we should be have more money now. Like we should have had like a big influx, like, ooh, here we go. Everything's so expensive right now, like the rice and the bananas, that I don't know how kids coming out of college are able to afford because rent is have you heard of rent below $2,000, $3,000 a month? It's more than our first mortgage.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

So Seamus's rent, and he's in a 300 square foot studio, was is more than the first my first mortgage payment. And it's it's just crazy. And he doesn't even have, he has like the little almost like a dorm refrigerator where he can lay in his bed and like reach over to the refrigerator. But you know, that's what again, like it, I you don't understand. Like, and he's really good. I feel, and we've talked about this before, like he we try to set our kids up so they understand the the importance of of savings and like putting away and like living within your means, but it it's hard for them. Yes. So I think it's really expenses and financials, uh, no matter where you are across the spectrum in your in whatever stage of life.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

You're probably you're probably right. Um, well, this is something we should probably get some sort of financial. We've had people pitch to us financial people, honestly, but they've mostly been men, so we haven't really. Kenny is still our only man that's ever been on the show. Oh, and Brian, but uh, so I'll I'll find us somebody, we'll work on it and get it together.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

All right, so tell me what did you learn before you forget?

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Okay, I think I need my glasses for this. So, um okay, I can who I am right here, right now, isn't my last version of myself. And I think for years, the generations before us, like once you hit a certain age, it was like, I'm not gonna have goals, I'm not gonna have dreams, this is where I am. Now I'm I'm just now living till I die. And that's that's not midlife. Midlife is I'm halfway through, I'm on the second half, I'm gonna enjoy this thing, and I'm going to have, I'm gonna make changes, I'm gonna do great things, I'm I'm not done. My version of me is not done. That is my what did I learn before I forget? I'm not done.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

110%. I completely, completely agree with you because this is our prime time, and we need to pick what our life has time and room for to try new things, to enjoy our friendships, have a want-to-do list, and start crossing it off. Of we're so it was funny. I think we were all talking about this a couple weeks ago that and there was something like online, like we're the freshmen of old people.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

I love that stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

So we still have to embrace it and like don't let like age hold us back. It's like, and I think it's part of the health span mentality, and probably why I'm having trouble sticking to my budget. Because we're trying to do all the things. Because you're trying to do all these things and like enjoy it and the same thing, like because probably when you turn 50, you weren't thinking that you were ever going to be doing a podcast. And here we are now at 57. So yeah, so you have no idea what the future holds. And I like that. I think that's like we need to embrace it. So I'm I'm joining you on that's what I learned as well. Yeah, I learned it from about you. That's all I have. I disagreed with you. All right, and I've forgotten. I've forgotten everything else. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Oh, so you there you go.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Well, that that happens. That happens. Well, do you have a this just pisses me off?

SPEAKER_01 17:48

I do, and I forgot to tell you this story um because I was so upset when we talked about the um last episode about the people on the boat that ruined our our chance to listen to the the band, that your candy band. When I was on the flight coming back from it was anchored to Seattle, that first leg, which is almost like a three and a half hour flight. Um, there was a couple with a dog that sat directly behind me. And okay, it it's fine, people, you know, they had the dog and a small carrier.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Yes, and I yeah, I mean, love dogs, everything, but yeah. Oh this dog um barked and whined that that high pitch, it was a smaller dog, high pitch whine the entire time, the entire flight.

unknown 18:35

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

For so, and you're you're sitting there and it's like it's at night, you know, the plane's dark, and just like you're sitting back, and for this, and I'm like, really? Like, and I get it because look, I've traveled with small kids, but even when you travel with small kids and your kids are crying, you apologize to the people around you.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

No, not not this couple. Um, not they just let this dog like dog whine and bark the whole time. I mean, did it initiate a conversation with the person next to me because he was also a dog person and we shared pictures of our dogs, and I said, My dog doesn't bark, and he said, Oh, my dog's already. But it's just like, really? Mm-hmm. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

That's that's tough. That's it's brutal. And it's a brutal, I mean, I feel for you having to listen to it, but I feel you know, can you can't make your dog stop? It's like trying to get your dog to stop peeing on someone's grist. It's like, I you think I have control of where this animal just be. Like I said, be here.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

So But at no time did they say anything like we're sorry about the dogs. They should have apologized.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

They should have been.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

I think they should have. And that was that was more of a thing that pisses me off. Yeah, it would have made it better because then I would have been like, Oh, I'm a dog person, but yeah, they didn't they they basically were kind of like tough shit.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

So it wasn't the dog that bothered you as much as the owners.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Yeah. So, all right.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

All right, so thank goodness they were not on my connecting plate.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Yeah, oh, that's very trivial.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

All right, how about you?

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Well, first thing I'm gonna say is this freaking chair. This is what pisses me off and says I hate this fucking chair. I because it keeps pushing my head for it, I'm stuck with my head down. All right, I got that out because I keep like moving my head, trying to get away from it. So I flipped it up. All right, the other thing that pisses me off is that people can go into your home and do remediation construction without your knowledge. That they can just and they're protected by the law or it is an emergency, but so nobody emailed, called, nothing. Nobody told me I was gonna walk into a house with no walls and construction dust all over every single thing I own that has only been here one year, and it's all brand new.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

You would think that the the management office, someone would have called you, left you a message to just be look like let yeah, just so you're aware this is happening to your place, to your home.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

There was a specific email that went out that was like uh important, whatever. It went out on July, I found it today on the portal. It went out July 20th, I think. We never that's one like there's like two emails that went out that were urgent that we never got somehow. And it wasn't until we sent Riley over here to look at the condo to be like, oh, yeah, we have some minor damage, it's not a big deal. We had no idea about the mold issue that developed during the since when the rain started to dry out and it started to filter through from the roof, because they're putting a new roof on. When they're putting the water went through the roof and it filtered through the units that were on the top floor, and some even below us. Um that's when they just The mold issue, but nobody told us. Yeah. So that's what pissed.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

And what a disaster in terms of and what kind of roofing contractor I mean, are you not experienced in Florida? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yeah. You think, I mean, apparently these were like ridiculous storms, and it was just bad luck. But yeah, I would think that you would have a lot of experience in Florida with the rains in July, that you should know that they're whatever you normally do, do extra. Do extra.

unknown 22:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Yeah. So that's what pisses me off.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Okay. I don't blame you for that. Yeah. I don't blame you for any of it, but yes. Well, how about you? Do you have a letter to your younger self?

SPEAKER_00 22:38

I do. I do. And mine is I would tell my dear self, you do not have to be productive every minute of every freaking day. Because I if I sat still, I remember bringing the kids to the swim club and feeling guilty. Even though I was playing with the kids and doing child care. But if my girlfriend and I were sitting at the edge of the pool talking and our the kids were completely entertained, I'd feel like, oh my gosh, I'm supposed to be doing something right now. Um and I I have to learn that it's okay. Like for a book club, unless I have a flight or I'm stranded somewhere, 90% of the time I am audiobooking the book and listening to it while I'm cleaning. Because I don't ever just sit and read or sit and be calm. And that's a problem. And that is what I wish I could tell my younger self to start doing that sooner. I am, I do make an effort to do it, but it's not something that comes naturally.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Yes, it is. And I know for both of us it's not natural. Like it's almost like you're we're like sharks, and if we stop moving, we die. Yes. And you do feel like I don't know if it's a from being a kid, and you know, my my dad's like, Oh, you have nothing to do, you're just sitting there. Okay, I'll I'll find something for you to do, like that kind of thing. Like you weren't allowed to relax at home, like when you were a kid. So I don't know if that's been ingrained, but yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

And it was also the our generation back when we were in our 20s, where the people like, I work a 70-hour work week. Well, I work an 80-hour week, and I don't sleep. And it was like a badge of honor to do those things, and it's really hard to like step back from that.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Yeah, and recovery is important. Downtimes, brain breaks. You need brain breaks.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

No, that's very true. So my letter is more it's very in line with that, but it may be more from the emotional side. So mine is you don't have to carry everyone's reality, you don't have to always be the peacemaker and then always make sure everyone else is comfortable. You have to, I saw it, like let the river of love reach you first before you sacrifice yourself for everyone else. And I feel like it will save you a lot of grief and stress and resentment.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

That's really good because how many times do we take on emotional things just to try to fix everything for everybody else and we don't it just takes from ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

I mean, I mean, I want to not saying I don't want to help other people, but what's the cost and is it necessary? Like we don't necessarily have to do it all the time. We probably still have the same outcome if we just didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Correct. And I like that about carrying everyone else's reality. Like that's that's their emotion or their feeling, and you don't you don't have to take that on and kind of tamp it down. So I like that. I thought it was I really like that, and it kind of goes in line with what you were talking about. Yours more from the physical side.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

All right, so what's your 50 shades? I know.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

My 50 shades is number one, dazzle dry, put it on Friday, haven't shipped it yet. It's a miracle. Okay, very happy with my dazzle dry. Over and you did it yourself. I did do it myself.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Oh, okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Oh, well, I will say Aaron did put on one coat, so I didn't do it completely for myself that much.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Yeah, but meaning you didn't go, you didn't go somewhere to get it done.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

Yes, yes, okay, exactly. And then the other, oh, the Orby Royal blowout used it this weekend. Brian was like, even he said something, he's like, Oh, your hair is not like frizzy at all, because I'll still get the little curly.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

They're like, thanks, Brian.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Thanks for thanks for noticing. I can tell you a few. Um anyway, and then the other thing is girls, I wore wedge, really cute wedge sandals to this wedding, and my feet never hurt once.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

I gotta love a wedge. A wedge is is peace, it is peace for your feet. Yes, and your feet will be happy. They were so happy in these wedges. I I danced a ton, I was on my feet, I don't know, six, seven hours. Feet never hurt.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

I wore a wedge to Riley's wedding and and danced all night. My feet were good.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

So it is true.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

The wedge is full the full foot support.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yes, yeah. Oh, very good.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

How about you?

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Nice. So I also love the orb, orby, is it orby? Um the royal blowout. Or bae, yes. I have to be careful though about not using too much. Um, I have made that mistake, and then it gets kind of it looks like um I haven't washed my hair in days. I went overboard and sprayed a little bit too much. So that's kind of like a PSA of don't overdo it. Okay, because it can get kind of greasy. Um, but I also have been using, I saw it online, a review of the list of the best heat protectants, and I I bought it and I tried it. And so I kind of kind of go every other time or whatever. And it's called Kenra, the platinum blow dry spray. Um it is a great scent, and the little goes a long way, just like the Royal Blowout, but it's much less expensive. So it will help with the budget. So it kind of goes in line with with our theme of the episode, but it's really nice. Um and you can really even just use that as like your only only product.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

So I feel like your next job should be the next version of you, should just be a product tester.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

I know.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

I feel like that should be a job, and you would be amazing at it.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Okay. Yeah, because I do. Yes. You test them all. And you know, I love that. I do test them all.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

You test them, and you usually, you know, you you have you give very fair, very good critique of each one.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Oh, maybe Wire Cutter from the New York Times will hire me.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Why don't you apply?

SPEAKER_01 28:44

I know I should. I know. I feel like I because I follow them all the time, and I like love to I try their stuff.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

So that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

So uh um, but we have big news. Big news.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Oh, yes, we do have big life.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Because next week we have the midlifers, and they are a two-woman social media phenomenon. I am a midlifers super fan. I I love them, I respond to all their stories. They'll put something up there like, just has anyone ever had George Jeans? I'm like, I have. So I am so looking forward to them being on next week's episode. And so, in advance, all our listeners, you can check them out on Instagram or social media, and it they're called the Midlifers. And um it's it's just gonna be so exciting.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Yes, I'm very excited to have Lisa and Suzette on. They are super relevant if you're in your midlife. They're just so, so funny.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Even the stuff that they remember that it just brings back like just such funny memories. I laugh at all their, yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

I think that's why they're so relatable. Yeah, they are so relatable. Yeah, you know, one for me is like when you dial a phone, like when you used when you used to have a dial phone, and like if it had a zero in it, and like you accidentally put your finger in the nine, and then you guys then you have to start over. Like that to me was like one definitely some PTSD, some childhood trauma on dialing a phone. That was tough stuff.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

People don't even then they talk about all like your female facial hair that comes out, like but like your chin whiskers. It means they're just so I I'm really looking forward to it. But I think everyone's gonna love it.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Yeah, it's gonna be a great episode next week. So make sure you are following us, rate us, review, download, follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. Please do all the things we want to hear from you. Interact. We love it.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Thank you to our listeners and our affiliates. We have to do under outfit. Um, in fact, a big shout-out. Thank you to Betsy because Under Outfit, she had an issue with sizing and then they couldn't replace it. Their customer service is wonderful. They just said, go ahead, you can keep the bra or give it to someone else, of which I know we were joking around that it was like the sisterhood of the traveling bra. So Lucy tried it on and liked it to fit her. Oh, good. Well, so yeah, so she has it. So thank you, Betsy, and thank you, Under Outfit. And hello Nancy, who also has great customer service.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Yes. Good. I'm glad you remembered that because I almost forgot. But so until next week, where we continue to seek answers for women's health care and support one another.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

See everybody.